Gwendolyn Zoharah Simmons is assistant professor of religion at the University of Florida. She is also a member of the National Council of Elders. Her account of her work as an activist in the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) is featured in the book, "Hands on the Freedom Plow: Personal Accounts by Women in SNCC." Lucas Johnson is international coordinator of the International Fellowship of Reconciliation and an ordained Baptist minister. This interview is edited and produced with music and other features in the On Being episode "Gwendolyn Zoharah Simmons and Lucas Johnson — The Movement, Remembered Forward." Find more at onbeing.org.